A Travellerspoint blog

Zurich

museum, the city, and nature

all seasons in one day

I took an overnight train Thursday night and was excited but fearful for my preceptor warned me to be careful, blogs on the internet warned me to be careful, my guidebook warned me to be careful. Overnight trains and a young woman travelling alone apparently can spell disaster, but my overnight trip was thankfully rather uneventful and merely filled with excitement. 6 bunk beds with not enough room to sit upright. Three men on one side and two other women slept above me. The woman on the very top bunk was named Reena and we spoke a bit - she is a social worker and was very kind to me. She loves Bob Dylan and that is how she initially learned English was by listening to his music - amazing. She does not like the current healthcare system in the Netherlands and was on her way to see some friends in Switzerland for some hiking high up in the mountains. I spoke with none of the other travelers in my quarters really. I slept but not too deeply as i slept with my bag pushed in the corner away from the door and with my legs slung up over it so if anyone tried to break into it i would wake up - paranoid or cautious - you be the judge. It was so exciting arriving in Zurich at 8:30 in the morning on Friday. I made my way to my friend's office where I picked up a key and caught a cab to his place. His wife was very kind to greet me and give me quick recommendations as well as a sense of where i was on the map i picked up at the tourist info center - don't ever be afraid of the tourist info center. I wandered lost when i first arrived and they helped me figure out how to get to my friend's office. THANK YOU TOURIST INFO CENTER!
After I settled some of my stuff in i took off for the museum though it was drizzling. It poured while I was in the museum and on and off while i walked through the park and sculpture garden outside the museum. The view was beautiful, the air smelled fresh, and the trees eclipsed the rain from blanketing me when the rain started to fall hard again while on my walk.
Once the rain subsided I wandered into town where I walked around the lake a bit, took a ride on a ferris wheel, went to the old town to wander, and ended in the city center. I walked from noon until 7pm.
One of the big events of the day was I decided I would try and break another food/psychological barrier by trying chocolate to see if i got a migraine - it seems this is no longer a risk and so i dined on swiss chocolate truffles and chocolate mousse in the evening when out to dinner with my friend and his wife. I stayed up entirely too late thinking and watching movies/tv. Fortunately I slept in late which was nice. I missed nothing of the morning as it was raining terribly. In the afternoon my friend and i were blessed with a beautiful Saturday afternoon where we headed to this ridge line to hike up. Nature was beautiful and at the top we enjoyed some apfelwein or hard cider. I had 2 half litres and didn't feel it until we were back at the house where a nap was promptly needed. My friend and I went out and dined at a nice little italian restaurant nearby then went in where i considered going back out, but it was nice to stay in and watch the documentary "Forks over Knives" which had also been recommended to me by my friends in Germany. The rain started falling heavily and I was glad I had decided not to go wander around town again. Sunday morning was nice and lazy until I had to depart for the train station to catch my train back to The Netherlands. 7-8 hours later I was back home where despite my shin splints I went for a nice run and did some yoga (too much chocolate!). Emails had to be answered and I have a meeting bright and early in the morning so I need to head to bed.

Of important note - Zurich is ridiculously expensive, like it puts NYC to shame with regards to cost of tourist activities as well as cost of living. I would love to live there except for this fact.

Also, the pictures may not be in order of the events as they occurred because my camera died at one point and so I used my ipad to take some photos and then alternated between the two depending on what what was most convenient. I was really missing my smartphone camera - i could've taken some sweet panorama shots.

Enjoy the photos!

Delicious Swiss chocolate

Delicious Swiss chocolate

view from the train

view from the train

view from the train - some place in Germany

view from the train - some place in Germany

View from the train

View from the train

View from the train

View from the train

View from the train - some place in Germany

View from the train - some place in Germany

View from the train

View from the train

repainting the car every day for some volvo promotion in Zurich Hbf

repainting the car every day for some volvo promotion in Zurich Hbf

Zurich Hbf - main train station

Zurich Hbf - main train station

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike at the top

ridge line hike at the top

ridge line hike at the top

ridge line hike at the top

ridge line hike at the top with some apfelwein (hard apple cider)

ridge line hike at the top with some apfelwein (hard apple cider)

ridge line hike looking down from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike looking down from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike looking up from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike looking up from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpiont

ridge line hike view from highest viewpiont

ridge line hike view form highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view form highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

ridge line hike view from highest viewpoint

on my way up to highest viewpoint (manmade structure) and here is a controversial sticker posted far out off a ledge

on my way up to highest viewpoint (manmade structure) and here is a controversial sticker posted far out off a ledge

ridge line hike view from top

ridge line hike view from top

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike - model of the sun; they have a hiking path where they have made models of scaled to correct relative size/distance planets

ridge line hike - model of the sun; they have a hiking path where they have made models of scaled to correct relative size/distance planets

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

ridge line hike

walking around the lake

walking around the lake

walking around the lake

walking around the lake

by the lake

by the lake

train station nearest where I was staying

train station nearest where I was staying

out in Zurich

out in Zurich

Museum Rietberg

Museum Rietberg

outside museum rietberg

outside museum rietberg

park by museum rietberg

park by museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

view from park by museum rietberg

view from park by museum rietberg

view near museum rietberg - the rain was coming in

view near museum rietberg - the rain was coming in

park by museum rietberg

park by museum rietberg

sculpture garden by museum rietberg

sculpture garden by museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

flowers that smelled so sweet when wet from rain - outside museum rietberg

flowers that smelled so sweet when wet from rain - outside museum rietberg

lots of ravens seen around museum rietberg

lots of ravens seen around museum rietberg

sculpture garden museum rietberg

sculpture garden museum rietberg

pretty view

pretty view

pretty trees

pretty trees

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

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museum rietberg

museum rietberg - visible storage

museum rietberg - visible storage

museum rietberg-visible storage

museum rietberg-visible storage

museum rietberg visible storage

museum rietberg visible storage

museum rietberg visible storage

museum rietberg visible storage

museum rietberg - visible storage - looks like breast plate for woman in battle(?)

museum rietberg - visible storage - looks like breast plate for woman in battle(?)

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

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museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg - tell me these masks don't make you think of some characters from star wars

museum rietberg - tell me these masks don't make you think of some characters from star wars

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

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museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg - circumcision knife - yikes

museum rietberg - circumcision knife - yikes

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

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museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

museum rietberg - explanations on multimedia exhibit in German, French, & English

museum rietberg - explanations on multimedia exhibit in German, French, & English

museum rietberg

museum rietberg

walking around Zurich

walking around Zurich

walking around Zurich

walking around Zurich

walking around Zurich

walking around Zurich

walking around Zurich

walking around Zurich

statue outside of friend's hoem

statue outside of friend's hoem

Swiss Francs

Swiss Francs

Swiss Francs

Swiss Francs

Swiss Francs

Swiss Francs

Swiss Francs

Swiss Francs

Swiss Francs

Swiss Francs

Buddha statue outside my window where i stayed

Buddha statue outside my window where i stayed

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Garden where I stayed

Garden where I stayed

Garden where I stayed

Garden where I stayed

Garden where I stayed

Garden where I stayed

At Zurich Hauptbahnhof

At Zurich Hauptbahnhof

pretty

pretty

pretty

pretty

view from train

view from train

view from train

view from train

sleeping arrangements on overnight train - 6 bunks

sleeping arrangements on overnight train - 6 bunks

my bunk on the overnight train to Zurich

my bunk on the overnight train to Zurich

view from the train

view from the train

chocolate given out on the train

chocolate given out on the train

view from the train - wish i could capture ALL the graffiti seen while on the train

view from the train - wish i could capture ALL the graffiti seen while on the train

view from the train

view from the train

view from the train

view from the train

elephant slide!

elephant slide!

water fountain - these sorts of fountains are found all over the city and are constantly running with potable water

water fountain - these sorts of fountains are found all over the city and are constantly running with potable water

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich - wasn't allowed to take photos in this church, but i snagged one without the flash on

walking around zurich - wasn't allowed to take photos in this church, but i snagged one without the flash on

walking around zurich - same church and i wish i could've taken photos - google grossmunster zurich church windows

walking around zurich - same church and i wish i could've taken photos - google grossmunster zurich church windows

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich - stencil art

walking around zurich - stencil art

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich - i rode that ferris wheel!

walking around zurich - i rode that ferris wheel!

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

view from ferris wheel

walking around zurich - lake

walking around zurich - lake

walking around zurich - lake

walking around zurich - lake

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich - so many swans!!!

walking around zurich - so many swans!!!

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

walking around zurich

Posted by PlanetMEP 16:01 Archived in Switzerland

Plans Change

and dreams will be realized

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I have booked my trip to Paris and will be staying with a friend of a friend just outside of Paris it seems. I can hardly believe it. From the time I was a young girl I have wanted to go to Paris and I have wanted to speak French well - of course all the classes and expensive tutoring paid for by my parents didn't seem to help French stick. French classes in the sixth grade and again in college I hope will be recalled as I begin to review some of my french the week before I go. All the French people I have met here in the Netherlands and in Germany have told me the younger generation is accepting English more so than the previous generations from which I've heard from just about everyone HATE to speak English. Still, it was surreal to be booking my train to Paris. Did that just happen?! Fortunately the joy of such an event for me has eclipsed the sadness I have realizing that I will not be taking any trips to Italy due to the distance by train for me. Rome, where I really wanted to go, will not be visited on this trip. However, I have also always wanted to see venice and I can only say that everything happens for a reason and not visiting Italy is a reason to come back to see as much of that country as I can. I told Gabe we must do this.
I asked the ladies at the international ticket office where they have gone or would go - what they would suggest with just a weekend to get away. Each of the ladies suggested Berlin and Prague so potentially I will go to one or both of these places. One of the ladies went to Berlin before the wall was taken down and was almost shot for taking a picture - she said it was an incredibly scary experience and all the times she has visited since have been marvelous. A friend from college in New York recommended Prague to me and so I am thinking about this as well. Two places that hadn't initially come to mind as places I really wanted to visit, but I am open to adventure.
Today I am crunching away at work - the deadline to finish this paper for a Madrid conference is closing. I will probably have to do some work later this evening, however before that I am happy to say my office mate and some other PhD students will be coming over to my flat for a potluck. We will drink red wine, eat arepas, some indonesian noodle dish, I am making green beans, and surely there will be other dishes to be sampled. If there are photos taken you can be sure I will post them.
Missing everyone at home. <3

Posted by PlanetMEP 01:41 Archived in Netherlands

Bremen

Germany

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Let me preface with saying that I will not have labels on these photos because I went through and put labels on all my photos and then for some reason they didn't save and with over 100 photos I am not rewriting descriptions for titles - I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you in the browsing of my photos.

Before leaving for Bremen

Before leaving for Bremen

The weekend ended far too soon and I can hardly believe I was in Germany and now am back in my summer home in The Netherlands. I got lost in my mind while there listening to those speaking around me. It was foreign, but for some reason it was just as if I was always at a party and there was so much conversation going on that I couldn't discern what others were saying. I had no difficulty navigating because I stayed with my friend and his girlfriend who were amazing hosts. A big thanks to them for showing me a great time and having me in their home.
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Thursday evening on May 31st I arrived in Bremen after about a 5 hour train commute with 2 transfers. Everything over the loudspeakers was in German so I just hoped that I would make it to my final destination okay. I am armed with a Lonely Planet Europe phrasebook, but that is all with regards to language. When in a place where I don't speak the language I do a lot of smiling and nodding and a whole lot of NOT talking. This is probably hard for most of you to imagine knowing how I love to talk - a good time to be introspective. Also, I can tell when some people are frustrated that I don't speak the language, but mostly people like to see that I am making an effort. If you are thinking about travelling I would say - make an effort as it makes a big difference in how congenial strangers are. Anyway, we sat in and warmed some frozen pizza for dinner while I got to catch up with my friend. We stayed up quite late talking so I got to sleep in until 10 the next day.
My friend's girlfriend had to work on Friday so my friend played tour guide and wanted to show me all things German.
He tried to get me to start my day off like a German by eating black bread.
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I do not like pumpernickel so this did not go over well. So instead I stared out their window 12012-06-01_10_45_57.jpgwhile waiting for some good rolls and a smoothie to be fixed. I love them for feeding me some.

My friend's girlfriend let me borrow her bicycle so we could get around easily. They picked me up in her car at the train station which I appreciated, especially considering gasoline is around 1.7euro per litre [1 U.S. gallon = 3.78 litres : 3.78x1.7=6.42euro/gallon : 1euro = 1.24dollars].

We rode all over downtown Bremen where I was amazed by the history seen in the architecture. Some very narrow pathways in one part of Bremen how the town was originally. Churches that were still standing post WWII, but where the glass is mostly new because the windows were blown out during the war. There were a couple small glass windows that survived the war. It was truly a heavy hearted experience when really thinking about what happened on the ground on which I stood. Bremen now is modern and bustling, but in the middle of all the modernity were these churches and inside a santa store where you can buy christmas things all year long is a wall (they were out to lunch so we couldn't go in) that is part of the original walls of the city long prior to WWII; staring through their glass windows I could make it out. Near the politically themed restaurant the three of us at dinner at was a wall with what looked like a golden plated architectural piece of art that was also part of the original Bremen, a part that survived WWII. Before we all went to dinner together, I put my flexitarian status into action for the weekend by starting off with an apparently very German lunch. Schnitzel

Schnitzel


Salad

Salad

Goulash

Goulash

I had the Schnitzel and tried some of my friend's Goulash. He ended up eating a large part of my food because that was too much meat for me. I also think I know where we get our chicken fried steak from in the south....Germany.
After lunch we walked through the beer gardens and I got to see this ship called the pancake ship where they serve only savory and sweet pancakes. I really wanted to eat there, but i did not so a picture will have to suffice.
Pancake Ship

Pancake Ship


Pancake Ship

Pancake Ship

Before and after lunch was looking around all of downtown and me trying to do a little bit of looking around to see if I could find any gifts and in my search i found some really delicious honey to try. So I spend some time in this old church which inside had many many steps to make it to the top where I was able to get a good view of the city. Also the church has inside a small room that was the original church when it was first built. The church as a whole was added on and i can only imagine the amount of time it took to build the structure. You will see in many of the pictures of downtown Bremen some white tents and that is because there was a wine tasting festival in downtown over the weekend.
I have had cause recently to question those things which previously gave me migraines and so have been doing some scientific research with what really gives me headaches and what does not and my research findings indicate that I do okay with wine and hard cider. Caffeine it seems is still not my friend. Friday evening we all at out at the politically themed restaurant which you will see in photos has black and white pictures all over the walls and some are politicians smiling happily, but there were photos that stuck with me of police officers beating a person up in the street, or pictures of the town decimated after WWII. Trying to soak all these images up over dinner with friends in the atmosphere was difficult. I ordered a meatless dinner of fried gnocci (which was more to my liking though i did sample my friends' meals and have to say the meatballs were good, but the oatmeal meat patty thing was not). Afterwards we went to the wine tasting and had a single glass of wine before the event closed down. Then, while in Germany, we went to a popular Irish pub called Hagerty's where we stayed until a little after 2am talking amongst ourselves and with the Germans who sat down at our table. A guy from the UK was singing songs written by The Doors, Pink Floyd and other songs of the sort. I indeed heard very little German music at all in my time in Germany. There are no "open container" laws in Germany so outside on our way home are people hanging out on random steps or benches drinking and hanging out. Everyone is riding a bike with a drink in one hand or a cigarette - unfortunately cigarettes are everywhere. We grabbed some drinks at a kiosk and walked all the way back to their home at 4am - I am wanting to get the most out of my time.

Saturday morning we all woke up late understandably and got the day started by making our way to an outdoor market nearby. There we got delicious pastries and drank tea (for me) and coffee (for my friends) under an umbrella as it started to rain. I was cold all weekend and had to borrow some clothes from my friends. The market had so many flowers and it smelled wonderfully. The almond pastry I got was super sweet and was over a foot long and roughly 8 or 9 inches wide...i had much of this for lunch as well. After a late breakfast at the market we headed out to watch my friend's rugby teammates play a tournament - something I really wanted to do as I miss playing rugby sometimes. It was a good time and these guys were not playing seriously in the sense that when they were off the field they were drinking beers instead of water and smoking cigarettes. These games were called Sevens because it is a formation of the game where you only play with 7 players on each side. Some female rugby players joined in and I think they are incredibly badass for playing with the guys....something I don't think I would ever do. One of the teams had the qualification you had to be over 100kilos and called themselves the dolphins. Their uniforms were pink with happy smiling dolphins - hilarious. Another team was called the unicorns and had unicorns on their jersey. I wish I had gotten pictures of all of this, but managed to only grab shots of the suggestive pink dolphin mascot. The sense of humor on everyone was good and everyone I met was extremely nice.
After rugby was a barbecue which we stayed around for and then we all went to get some food from this place called Arabic where I could yet again have a vegetarian meal - a delicious and overly spicy falafel. After dinner we sat at a bar for a bit before joining the rugby crowd at a party at a player's house for the female team captain's birthday. At the bar I saw a flyer I wish I took a picture of, but it isn't always appropriate in conversation to pull out a camera so I did not. The poster was for a sit in against the Nazi party. I was informed that only about 1% of the population is part of the far right part, but it is still bad and these posters were for back in february for a sit-in protest - where the left marched in protest of the Nazis. This is powerful to me. It seems in the east is mostly where this extremist group lives and in the same region is also where the most extreme leftists live as well. A great and troubling divide in that part of the country. I could not dwell on these politics for long as we headed to the party where I was exposed to lots of terrible music that at one point in time was very popular in the U.S. such as backstreet boys, new kids on the block, the Macarena, ace of base and it was basically all about the parody of the terrible music. The girls danced, everybody drank, and at midnight the party moved and we took our exit to walk back to their place. I had not been drinking, but I wanted a cider for the road to be a part of the culture and atmosphere so walked in the cold night with my hard cider (Bulmers) and blended in with the other crowds of people walking along in the night with their drinks.

This morning I had to catch my train so had a smoothie and a couple rolls with honey and was on my way back. I stared out the window and dozed off and could hardly believe I was already headed back to my flat. I still can't believe the weekend is over in the blink of an eye. Good times were had and I will continue to process my experiences in this part of the world where it is now hard to imagine war. Beautiful green fields and everyone is was very friendly even though my use of German was nearly nonexistent.

I nearly forgot to explain what you will see in many of the photos as the stack of animals. This is from a children's book about The Bremen Town Musicians about these old animals that are unwanted that decide they will leave their homes and go to Bremen to be musicians. The link is in German, but you can find the book written in English. It is a big deal in the town and rubbing the statue is said to be good luck. Please enjoy the pictures and if I post a picture, but there is no explanation in all that I have written you can always ask me.

Also you will see photos of me in front of a big gray building or some big concrete buildings - these are bunkers from the war that have been turned into homes. You can see how thick the concrete is. Also there is a picture of one house that is an original non-bunker house, still standing after WWII.

The picture of the woman dressed all funny is due to a cultural practice that when a woman gets married she has to dress really silly and go all over town. She polished the feet of the statue and they have to go to the church and polish the door knockers. The men have to clean the steps of the church with a toothbrush until they are kissed by a "virgin." I just thought the lady's outfit was funny.

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The guns in the window are all BB guns.

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Posted by PlanetMEP 14:19 Archived in Germany

I went running

and this is what I saw

2012-05-30 our running

2012-05-30 our running

2012-05-30 out running

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2012-05-30 out running

2012-05-30 out running

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2012-05-30 out running

2012-05-30 out running

2012-05-30 out running

I should be sleeping, but I head out after work tomorrow for Bremen, Germany where I will meet my friend Mike and his girlfriend for the weekend. Rugby matches to see (I hope) and some fun pictures to share after the weekend (i also hope).

I am a bit nervous as I have never navigated a train system such as this and I only have my handy pocket language guide so the German I'll be able to manage will be minimal.

Wish me luck.

Posted by PlanetMEP 16:41 Archived in Netherlands

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